The Power of Sensitivity—Thriving as a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)

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So I have a little bit of a unique job in that I fell into it by accident, but I have the honor of walking alongside artists, creatives, big leaders that are sensitive, that have a tendency to be very connected to the world and connected to people and helping them heal. Because for those of you that have sensitivity or tend to be more introverted or quiet, you may notice that yourself and those around you are very easily affected by the world you’re in. And our bodies are the physical manifestation of our internal state. And so if our internal state is a bit overwhelmed, if our internal state is stressed, if our internal state is nervous in a state of fight or flight with the nervous system, that’ll show up in our physical health in our body. And what I do is I help creatives and artists, specifically high performing creatives and artists are those that find their way to me reset their body on the physical level so they can then be their most creative abundance, nourishing and beautiful selves out in the world and have the massive impact that they’re meant to have at full capacity. Because a lot of us end up losing our ability to impact others when our physical health goes. And I’m just so passionate that those of us that are naturally more empathic, potentially, naturally more in tune with others are the ones that are leading are the ones that are given places of power and importance because they’re going to include more people and they’re going to bring goodness into the world. And so I see it as my job to keep all of those leaders running at a high level from a health standpoint. So that’s what I do. That’s great. And it’s just a number of times for my audience and one of the themes is leadership. And how do you take care of yourself and your body to keep yourself in an optimal state so you can really show up and perform the way that you like and notice that you’re focused on creative professionals. And you’re in Los Angeles, we were just discussing where I definitely spent my time where my children were born. Lots of creative professionals there and people really doing that at a high level. And creativity is something that is not confined to people who are in the creative professions. Every profession really benefits from creative thought and thinking. So there’s a lot of, I think a lot of crossover values to the things you bring here. And so I want to get into how you go about that. But before we do, let’s talk a little bit. You mentioned high sensitivity. Could you talk a little bit about what that means for people who might be less familiar with that term? Absolutely. High sensitivity is mostly known as being a highly sensitive person, HSP. And it’s something that’s come for more recently, I would say in the last two decades. As far as the scientific literature around this, it is a innate trait, meaning that it’s not just something that you grow into. It’s not a personality per se. It’s so much more than that. It’s actually a specific way that the brain functions and as a result, a specific way that the nervous system responds. Within the scientific community, it’s known as sensory processing sensitivity, SPS. So if you’re a nerd like me and you’re, you know, dive into publications and research, that’s what you’d be looking for, sensory processing sensitivity. And there’s a lot there. There are a lot of resources now around being a highly sensitive person, whether you’re into chat Gbt or Google, you can look it up. But ultimately, what it means is that when you walk into a room, if you’re a highly sensitive person, you’re going to take in about 100 pieces of data versus say more of an average human being, they’re going to walk in and receive maybe 10 pieces of data. So you are able to gather a lot more information from a space, from an experience, and that can be both a gift and a little bit of a challenge. It all comes down to knowing how to manage and also all comes down to how you perceive yourself. Most highly sensitive people when they first came into the world were born into families that most likely didn’t understand that trait. And perhaps even saw it as a weakness and labeled a dissetch within American culture. The word sensitive is not necessarily seen as the positive thing. It’s used in a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, yeah, stop being so sensitive. You’re too sensitive. It can be seen as a negative thing. I think there’s a turnaround coming with that, especially with the younger generations, but even still, I think what needs to be said is that if you’re a highly sensitive person, you’re actually incredibly strong and incredibly resilient because in order to navigate this, especially if you’re an American, this culture, this world as that brain function with that brain function, you have to be able to constantly be sifting through all this information and remaining strong, remaining stable at a nervous system level and considered, quote, unquote, normal, even though you’re alongside people that are having to do half, if not less, the work that you’re doing every single second to go even deeper. What is this information you’re taking in? Information you’re taking in is down to, it can be the colors that are around you, the specific texture of something. It’s very sensory oriented, but also it can be at a subconscious level of, oh, that couple over there, they were in a fight before they walked into this room and I can sense the tension between them. This person, friend of me, is going through something or I’m sensing their nervous system and my nervous system is trying to match it now. You pick up on the human interactions within a room. You’re working not just on a conscious level, but a subconscious level. It’s very rich. You’re experienced in the world. So I find it very beautiful. There’s also a lot of correlation between a highly sensitive person and an artist. They tend to overlap. Most artists and creatives are highly sensitive people. It’s quite cool. You put all that really, really, really a couple of points I wanted to pick up on. One is the item of resilience and that’s commonly misunderstood. It can be a source of really great, strong resilience and in the science where a lot depends on early childhood experiences of people who have really supportive homes and are highly sensitive are some of the most resilient people who are out there. Just with more aversive, just negative childhood experiences, they can really struggle. But the great news with this trait of high sensitivity, you can overcome that much more easily than the general population. The good news if you happen to be highly sensitive is you come across someone like Jessica, there’s a lot of benefit and you can really change your life, transform your life very rapidly. Yes. And just to speak really quickly to what you said, it’s not a death sentence in a way. It’s not something to be ostracized for. It’s something to be grateful for. It’s a gifting is how I see it. It’s an incredible gifting you’ve received. And for myself, I grew up in an environment that I would say was a 50-50 situation. I was given a lot of creative opportunities, which was a blessing because it gave me an outlet for my sensitivity to be appreciated. But I also grew up in a family that was very competitive. That was very high energy and go, go, go. And a bit intense. And so my parents didn’t know. They didn’t understand. And there’s also that too of giving your family grace because they didn’t know that that part of you was natural. And a parent’s job is to help you become a healthy adult that can take on the world. And my parents had no idea. They knew I was sensitive, but they didn’t realize it was a gifting. They thought it was a weakness. And so they did treat it as such. And so I did try to come out of it in a way. And it wasn’t until probably my mid-20s that I really started learning about high sensitivity. And that was when the light bulb went off for me. I was married at the time. And my husband who’s such a precious individual was like going through the test with me. And I was answering all the questions for your highly sensitive person. And I was like, oh my gosh, there’s other people like me. This is a big. I just thought I was super weak. You know, I didn’t have the actual trait. And that completely shifted everything for me. And that was actually right before I started my health practice, which is what I do. And so it really changed the way I entered even the health space because I was so passionate about not just my own self and my own experience, but I’m like, if there’s other people out there like this, I wonder if they’ve experienced physical expression of this as well. So I immediately started integrating that into my work within the health. And now my practice specializes in that, which is quite rare. I don’t actually know anyone else that does this. But my journey has been an up and down one. But now I’m in a place where I fully own it. I love it. And the more that I had noticed that I stepped into embracing who I am, the more I’m surrounded by people that either respect and appreciate it or are that themselves. You’re right. You attract who you are. It’s a beautiful filtration. People that maybe don’t respect or appreciate it are naturally deflected. Rejection is protection. It’s safe. So I’ve been really beautiful to see my life kind of flourish. The more that I embrace and honor that part of me. I love that. And that’s a message I like to hear and amplify. Here from a number of my guests, I talk about people who are just focusing on interversion. And clearly there is overlap, not exact overlap with high sensitivity. But people are made to feel different for whatever reason and struggle. And there’s so much information now for people to learn about. There’s different types of wiring. And this is kind of a unique set of wiring instructions and it’s super helpful to have the user manual for that. I really appreciate that story of learning and acceptance that you had. So tell me a little bit more about this. How did you go about integrating this knowledge into your health practice from there? Yes. I started my health practice as a result of my own health journey. And so I have to speak a little bit to that. I have to go back to the origin story. So I came into the world as a sensitive child and my body was quickly overwhelmed. Let’s say that. And it expressed itself physically as callic, for example, as a newborn. It turned into a lot of ear infections, a lot of food sensitivities. And then as I grew older, it showed up in as a woman throwing off that transition into puberty. And as I got older, just starting to see all these different symptoms come forward. And so I was thrown into the medical space early on. And within our Western medical spaces, it’s not the greatest. And I say that with respect. The doctors are trying their hardest, but our system is far from ideal. If you don’t fit into the predetermined boxes, they don’t know what to do with you. And I never fit into the medical boxes. And so there was also that element for me as well of feeling like an odd ball in social setting, but also an odd ball within medical spaces. And so early on, I started realizing I need to figure things out for myself. These systems aren’t working for me. And I felt really misunderstood, which I think is super common probably with many people listening. I felt so misunderstood. I felt like an alien amongst, you know, amongst these people, I didn’t feel like I fit in. And so I realized either I had to fake it and just tell people what they wanted to hear, which is a big part of my story, or I had to do it on my own. And so I started doing that with my health. They started research. I started learning one of the benefits of being a highly sensitive person is that I have a really strong intellect. My brain goes at a hyperspeed and I have an incredible ability to focus and research and take in all that information. And I started really becoming ultimately my own expert, which I think everyone should be. But at a very young age, I had to do that. And so I started realizing I stepped out of the Western medical space and I started going more alternative, hoping that there might be some answers there. And I found more fellow oddballs, more people that didn’t fit into the categories. And that was beautiful. But I also kept hitting walls there too. And I started learning so much that I was teaching these practitioners that I see. It feels like this is backwards. So I got to the point where I was like, I think I need to have my own practice because I had people starting to come to me and I started to see results from my own work. And I learned so much from every practitioner I saw. So my practice started from a place of entering in, knowing that I wanted to be the practitioner that empowered people. I didn’t want to just become like another mini-god that told people, I know exactly what’s wrong with you and this way you need to do. And I wanted to be like, hey, let’s be partners in this and let me help you become your own expert. And I’m literally just passing that ability on. And so, Mirfler Wellness was birthed out of that place of a desire to empower, empower others, empower those that felt misunderstood within the health space. And from there, it grew and started becoming even more niche because the people that kept coming to me were sensitives and work creatives where actresses, models, writers, poets, musicians, and even creatives within the corporate space, a lot of people that land in 9 to 5s, like that are in marketing and advertising. And even I’ve had moms, creativity, as you said, goes far beyond a job title or career. And what I kept seeing over and over again was the nervous system and how, again, as they go back to how I described very simply the fact that we’ve taken so much data, it really can overwhelm the nervous system if we don’t know how to navigate that. And we had to filtrate it because the data isn’t just, oh, that couch is green. It’s also that couples in an argument. And now if I don’t have healthy boundaries, I’m now amushing, I’m emerging with that experience and I’m taking on the emotional weight of what that couple is going through. Honestly, they may not even know that they’re like giving off. That’s a whole not a thing we can talk about. You’re easily taking on the experiences of those around you. And so if you don’t know how to hold that boundary between yourself and others, you’re going to be carrying the experiences, the life experiences of your family, the people in your medias surrounding, the people in your home, and even honestly the energies of the world. And so that manifests physically. So my clients come to me typically with all sorts of what I would call dysfunction in the body. But ultimately, we follow it all the way down like they say follow the money. I say follow the nervous system, follow the health stories, what I call it. We get down to the root. It’s the body’s inability to manage all that it’s been carrying. And I often use the description of a bucket. And this is a very commonly used one, but if you think of the body as a bucket and you filled it all the way to the top, you get to a point where even the tiniest little drop into the bucket is going to make it overflow. The most sensitive have filled their bucket throughout their lifetime. And they come to me and get the yum-yonger and younger. But when I first started out seven years ago, eight years ago, I was mostly getting people in their 30s, 40s. And now I’m getting people that are coming straight out of college. They’re in their 20s and they’re already maxed out, which was my story. I was maxed out in college. I got it early, but they’re tapped out and they’re wilting when they’re not able to manage a job, but they’re not able to move through their daily life. A lot of them are even bedridden because they’re so physically maxed out. And so what we do is I work on the functional side. And then if they’re open to it, but I call the ethereal side. So we look at the body. We look at the emotions. We look at identity. We look at how you’re expressing yourself. From the functional side, I like to hear really basic how the organs are functioning in the body. And so again, as highly sensitive people, as someone who is maybe more introverted, someone that’s more quiet, that is also called into a space of leadership and a high responsibility that is quite a combo for the body. If you don’t know how to have healthy boundaries. Like I said, it all comes into the physical body. So for example, we talk about the nervous system. I don’t know if that’s something you’ve discussed much on this podcast, but I simplify it that we have what’s called an alarm state and a calm state. So it’s more familiar with the sympathetic versus the parasympathetic. And in the alarm state, we’re in that high go-go mode. It’s where you are when you’re performing. It’s where you are when you’re running a meeting. You’re in a leadership mode. It’s also where you are if you’re in a lifestyle where you have to always be in that state. It’s also the state you might be in if you have a lot of trauma that you haven’t dealt with, right? You haven’t faced. And some of it’s subconscious. Some of it’s so deep. You’re not even aware of it. It’s running in the background and you don’t know it. So if you’re living in an alarm state, the problem is that the body cannot do things like rest, digest, and detox in that state. It is actually a flip. And again, it’s more complex than this. I’m keeping it simple for this thing to put them. But we want the body to be able to go into the calm mode as often as possible. And this is where we rest, digest, and detox. This is where healthy function happens for the body, for the organ systems. And if we’re constantly living in an alarm mode, which most highly sensitive are, we’re not doing all those natural functions. And maybe they happen overnight when we finally collapse. Before sleeping, a lot of my clients are like, I’m barely sleeping. But if you think about it here after a year, living in a state that doesn’t allow you to digest basic function, that’s how you receive nutrients that you need to run your body. Detox, that’s how you remove toxins that in this modern world, we experience on a constant basis. And why I say toxins, I don’t just mean chemicals. I don’t just mean heavy metals. I don’t just mean mold. I also mean emotional toxins. And when you process it and release current experiences and also packs experiences. And then it’s just so important to be able to move through all these different functions and to be able to shift into rest mode, because that’s when we’re able to rejuvenate and regenerate. So if you imagine if you’re not doing that, you’re going to really max yourself out. And it’s going to show up in all sorts of symptoms, whether it’s a chronic illness, brain fog, the inability to access creativity, just pure exhaustion. I have a lot of people that come to you and just pure exhaustion. And they just know they’re not living to their full potential. And maybe they have the ability to push through it because we are so resilient. But ultimately you’re going to crash out. And so clients come to me, they’ve usually seen multiple practitioners by the time they see me because they don’t fit the boxes. And then we go in deep and we reset their function at the organ level. And we also address the emotional side as well. We do identity work. And I can speak to that as well. I’ve been monologuing for a while. I thought they did. It’s really great. Yeah, and there’s a lot in there. And do talk a bit about the sympathetic, parasympathetic and that, especially in these leadership situations, you’re getting out. And that’s pushing you away into the sympathetic. And so you do need that tool set or that ability to calm yourself and take yourself out of that because that gives you access, not just health, but just even in the moment, mental resources of your brain because if you’re in a fight or flight, then you’re not accessing prefrontal cortex, like the important things, you’re not using your integrated brain and you’re just in that survival mode. You’re not performing well in that situation. I’m curious about organs. Clearly it’s good to be in the more calm state for the health of your organs. Diagnostate, sorry, you try to figure out where are these negative energies centering in your body, where are you holding on to things and tell me more about that. Yes, absolutely. I have so much to say. So I’m always like, tell me what you want to hear. Yes, but when it comes to evaluation, so again, everything is data. Everything is information. And so for me, when I’m looking at a body, which sounds so clinical, when I’m taking in a client and we’re reflecting and witnessing their body and getting to look at what is there, we’ll look at it from multiple angles, multiple perspectives, data from labs. I love to run diagnostics, so I run functional labs. So we’ll do like a full blood chemistry. We can look at the body that way. I do stool testing, very specific stool testing. I usually like to start there. If a client comes to me and they don’t have any capacity, for example, we’ll start with your transmitter testing, which is one of my favorite ways to support it. And your transmitter testing is a lesser known support. Actually, a lot of clients comes to me through therapists, which I love. I love partnering with therapists in this work. But neurotransmitter testing, it’s a way to see how your brain is functioning, how your nervous system is functioning. Because from a health perspective, I would never take someone, for example, into a full gut reset, which if you’ve gotten into health, you know that gut is most often the foundation of where things have gone awry. You’ve got microbiome. And it really sets the tone for your brain health. It sets the tone for your immune health. It sets the tone for your emotional state and your nervous system inflammation, so many other things. So when we test in your transmitters, we can see, for example, the serotonin pathway. How are we moving through that comp state? Do we have the ability to come down and regulate? There’s many different pathways that we can look at. And I’d also like to look at your cortisol levels. What is your stress pattern throughout the day? And the way I test is very angular. It’s very detailed, very specific, which is quite different than you would experience in a typical medical setting. Because for example, when I run a cortisol panel, we’re doing four samples throughout a day versus one blood in the morning, which is really not helpful. But we’re getting as much details we can through testing in order to expand capacity. So like in your transmitter, it allows me to look at your brain and your nervous system and go, okay, this is where we’re flat lining. This is where we’re maybe overexpressing. And from that standpoint, I can do what’s called bandaid supports. And I can come in with something like amino acid therapy, which is one of my favorites. And we can build the body up very quickly and turn you around. So for example, if I have a client that comes in and says, hey, I’m going to a leadership conference. I have to give a presentation. I am just, I’m flat lining. I have no energy. I feel like I can’t access my brain. Or I’ve noticed all of a sudden I’m getting these panic attacks. And it’s so unlike me, what’s happening? We pull on your transmitter panel. We see what’s going on. Oh my gosh, okay, we’re completely depleted in GABA or we’re actually in excess with serotonin. And I’m using the ones that are more well known. But there’s more details to it. And from that standpoint, we can come in very quickly and I can literally change this client’s body, this client’s brain expression within 15 minutes using certain supports. And so obviously that’s not getting to the root of the cause. I understand that. But we have the ability with natural non-addictive side effect free supports like amino acid therapy, which is supplementation to change the state of your body and your brain and your nervous system within 15 minutes. It’s incredible. This is something that needs to be more well known. But so again, most of my clients are high performing is what I would call their in really extreme states. I’ve actresses that are on a set at 2 a.m. in the morning in Canada and the freezing weather and they have to perform. They’re literally going through an intense scene of running whether if they’re in horror film or a death scene, it’s insane what they’re asking their body to do. And so if they’re living in that state, they have to have supports that can step in. So that’s an example of kind of quick support. And then my true passion is what I call resetting the body. And that’s where we come in and we fully go deep in and usually starts with the gut. And we’ll do a full gut rebalance where we eradicate any pathogens that may be dominating the gut and dictating how the brain is wired. A lot of times what we think is lack of discipline or lack of willpower or even trauma sometimes actually has to do with pathogens which are viruses, bacteria that are dominating the microbiome and literally taking over your brain and telling your brain what to do. Even simple cravings can be tied to that. So when we reset the gut, we reset you. You come back to your chew out then take self. And from there we look at digestion, we look at detox, we look at, and when I speak about the organs, I’m thinking about the brain. I’m thinking about the adrenals, the thyroid, the liver, the gallbladder, I could go on and on. But everyone’s story is different. Everyone’s body manifests. They are experienced differently. But at the end of the day, it’s just the body giving you messages like symptoms that we experience, whether it’s eczema or acne, whether it’s brain fog or whether it’s digestive disruption. And that’s how it looks so many ways. Those are all just messages from the body saying, hey, I need some help over here. You need to pay attention to me. And the less you pay attention, the louder the messages get. The more extreme the symptoms become. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the body also learns your body is so brilliant. It’s constantly trying to survive and heal. And so we’ll put things on the back burner and you’ll start to layer and things become chronic. So we have a cute first chronic. Cute is what’s happening immediately. Chronic is things that have maybe happened from the past. Maybe a virus from your childhood that was never fully addressed or you just took an antibiotic, which little insight that doesn’t resolve anything, it often pushes the virus into what we call biofilm. And so the body is then just dealing with it on a back burner basis until you address it and complete that cycle. So complete that full clearing. So there’s a lot that can come into it. And that’s just a functional side. Each organ also carries emotion. So if we have trauma in the body, there’s a lot of research behind this now. I love Dr. Gabor Mate and his work, but there’s a lot of research and traditional Chinese medicine has known this forever. This isn’t new information, but for example, your liver holds anger, which a lot of highly sensitive do experience rightfully, deep resentment or anger as a result of how they’ve been treated or misunderstood. And it comes through the liver. Each organ holds emotion. And as highly sensitive as we often have repressed anger because of how we’ve been treated or mistreated, misunderstood. That’s a really common one. And I also see that most of us don’t know that or acknowledge it as well because we want to be nice. We’ve been conditioned to be nice. And so there is often a lot of repressed frustration, bitterness, resentment, which is ultimately an expression of anger. And that lives in the liver and the gallbladder. And that can come for in so many different ways. I often see it come through the skin in different expressions. That’s just an example of how our emotions are deeply woven into the body. And again, our body is just a physical manifestation of our state. Our emotional state, our nervous system state, our mental state, and our energy. If we want to get into the ethereal elements too, we can talk about that. And we’re very big on that as well. But from a functional perspective, it’s so important to honor the body. And as sensitive as it can be hard because most of us have disassociated or disconnected from our bodies because our body was a place of pain. Our body was also something that we were taught. We couldn’t trust because we experienced the world. As I said earlier, more essentially, we hear things, we feel things, we can be overwhelmed by the amount that we are taking in physically from the world around us. And so we learn whether we realize it or not. We learn how to turn the dial down, turn the volume down on our experiences. We can’t fully turn it off because it’s an inborn trait. It’s an innate trait. We can turn the volume down on it and we try to mute our body. And that’s how we survive. And so it’s really painful when we start to turn the volume back up, which is healthy. And we go, oh gosh, I don’t want to go back there again. Because then the body goes, oh, thank you, you’re listening. Let me tell you all the things that need to happen. You’ve been with us for the last 20 years. You’ve been with us for the last 20 years. And the thing is, if you don’t turn the dial up, it comes through in big ways. Like a diagnosis, like a cancer diagnosis and not immune diagnoses. And so these are the clients that are coming to me. They’ve received these and we talk about this and we walk through the process and we understand it. And we go into the body gently. And that’s what’s very different about me from a practitioner that is not aware of sensitivity. Is it I work with my clients from the space of sensitivity of understanding that wiring? We can’t just go in and just, all right, just get on to protocol and just do that. Be better. You know, be better. Yeah. So instead, we have to come in and there’s, I have a beautiful container that I’ve created called the Concierge Reset. And it’s where we, I literally walk a can in hand. And it’s also education. Once you understand how your body’s wired and how it functions, there’s so much grace, there’s so much kindness for yourself. And then we just move gently and we take the body forward step at a time. We often marry it with therapeutic work too because when you move the body, you move the emotions. When you move the emotions, you move the body. And so you need to be prepared as you start to move, get the body back online is how you describe it because it’s been offline. We press that power button and all the messages load. We’re like, oh my gosh. We go very gently. We take pauses and it’s a dance. It’s an art form. I always describe myself as an artist in the scientific world. Like I’m very right-brained in that way. And so it is an art form to move through even supplementation in itself and using a protocol and moving through healing seasons. You can be very tender. It can be very challenging. And so working with a partner that knows how to navigate that with you, I think is ultimately what brings success. It strikes me that this is a process. One of the reasons why you don’t find this in Western medicine is this is very individualistic. This is hard to scale up. I want to create an army of Jessica’s to help. But it’s wonderful that you’re here and pioneering this work and sharing it out this way as well. You mentioned people are coming in younger and I have two Gen Z kids in 1921 and their self-awareness, the information, the quality of information that’s available to them is mind-blowing. It’s everything I know now. And so they’re starting out coming out of the gate with all these insights and maybe in my mind is very fortunate to be able to find help at such a early age. And so it’s interesting that you’re seeing that trend as well. Yeah, definitely. It’s again a gift and a challenge because more information can sometimes also be overwhelming. And so coming into the world, did you say two daughters? I hope two sons actually. I was just saying, yeah, they’re seeing a completely different world. And then you or I saw and they’re seeing a much more layered world. Each generation is seeing more of the nuances of being human. And so again, that’s beautiful, but it’s also challenging because that’s more to take in a minute of the day. You’re considering more things. They’re being exposed to more things. Even we can talk about this and everyone talks about the internet. They’re considering far more in every single minute. And the body has to navigate that. The brain. And the brain is capable of it. But if we don’t know how to recover and that’s the thing, we’re just taking all this information. We’re adding without learning how to manage and move through it. And I think the younger generations are realizing that they have to learn how to do that. There’s not an option now. They can’t just bold those through it. And there is also I think a need younger and younger to learn how to navigate and how to tune in. And so I think it’s beautiful. I think we’re in a comfortable circle. I agree. I have just a bit more time. What I’m wondering about is bringing this to a broader audience because we’ve been talking a lot about people are highly sensitive. And my view on that is that we’re not completely different beasts. People who are highly sensitive have traits. The same traits as everyone else. They just may really experience them more strongly. But everyone is having the same kind of process where you’re not fully feeling or processing your emotions. The emotions get stored in the body. What would you say to people who maybe are not highly sensitive? Absolutely. I think it’s a spectrum. I always say that. Everyone has some level of sensitivity for one. But in general, whether you’re sensitive or not, you do. You are experiencing an intense world right now. The modern world is a lot. And your childhood, the formation of who you are and what you took in that time, really set up your body as well. And if you can look back at your childhood and say, there was a lot there. There was a lot that I took in. Then just know that there’s going to be a lot going on in your body as well, unless you have actively stepped in to address it. And I’m not just talking about therapy. I’m talking about physically going in and checking and evaluating your body. And I would highly recommend that everyone see a functional practitioner. So someone that is trained in looking at the foundational pieces of your body, which I’m sad to say you’re not going to find within Western medicine. It’s quite rare. So you will need to step outside of that, which again is unfortunate, but it’s for your benefit. In the long run, the cost savings will be very high. If you start addressing it now and you don’t wait to get a diagnosis to look into your body. And if you are in therapy and if you are realizing, oh, I do have big T or little T trauma, I have had experiences that have affected me. It can be as simple as that. Check in on the body in the same way. And there’s really beautiful tools that you can look at. Traditional Chinese medicine body clock will show you the connection between the emotions and specific organs that I was speaking to. That’s something you can look up. And so for example, I’ll go back to my previous example. If you’re in therapy and you’ve noticed, oh, I have a lot of resentment or that’s an emotion that’s coming up for me a lot. I’m just feeling a lot of bitterness. Okay, maybe it’s anger. A lot of people don’t like to acknowledge anger. Okay, maybe it’s anger just maybe. Check in on your liver. Go into your practitioner of choice and say, hey, I want to run some panels to make sure my liver is healthy. I want to do a gallbladder scan. If you’re working with a functional practitioner, hey, what can I do to support my liver and gallbladder? And even if you haven’t had anything come forward, how can you give it some love? What are foods? What are supplements? What are activities? What’s even breath work you can do to support that organ? I think it’s understanding where do I have vulnerabilities based on what I’ve experienced in my life based on emotions and how can I support my body in the specific areas? That’s a tiny little sliver of one of the many ways you can support yourself. Yeah, the really good practical advice. Jessica, if people want to learn more about your practice and hear more from you, where can they go? Yes. So I am at merflowonis.com. That’s my website. You can go there. I’m also on Instagram at merflowonis. And if you’re worried about the spelling, I’m sure Greg will have it. It’s a little bit sliver. It’s friends. It’s sweet French. It’ll be. If you don’t have a big friend. Yeah, merflow. And then I also have other, any of you as another podcast you can listen to too for more about what I do, but mainly the website and Instagram is where you’ll find me. I am an introvert and a sensitive. So being online is not always my favorite. I feel it. So what I do my best, I do my best to get out there and share all the work. So yeah, but that’s where you’ll find me and that’s where you can connect. Reach out through my website or where you can DM me on Instagram. I’m responsive in that way as well. Thank you. You speak so well about these things. Explain them really well. So I really appreciate having you on the podcast. Thanks for being here today. Oh, it’s a privilege. Thank you so much, Greg. The Bleacher Report app is your destination for sports. Right now the NBA is heating up. 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